TOO MUCH MONKEY BUSINESS: The Elvis Forum

Guys, let me share with you just how thrilled I am. Of course I could spend my money on this one:





But when surfing this week I noticed a Sun 45 of Good Rockin' Tonight and I Don't Care If The Sun Don't Shine (SUN 210) being neglected by other bidders. Probably because it was between all kinds antics and the seller gave little information about the matrix and pushmarks.
After contacting a seller (a Tennessee Ebay seller who buys antics and vintage stuff found on peoples attics) pushmarks and matrix numbers turned as originally pressed, after which I took a shot at it. It turned out to be the winning bid and for no more than the price for which you can be that ugly piece of crap on the photo above I have my own (hopefully genuine) Sun single in quite strong condition. I say hopefully genuine because you never can tell until you hold that priceless piece of history in your hands.

Congratulations Alexander !
Show it to us please when it arrives.
Do we have already a topic here how to see when a SUN is original ?

Well done Alexander, and whoever produced that piece of tat you've shown us, should be fucking shot.

Well done

It is on offer on the ElvisMatters Shop. Unfortunately I now have no money left to hire someone, so I will have to do the job myself? Or is anyone volunteering....

Save your bullets for the Paintings section. It will be turned into a Carny shooting
Gallery, now that the owner has closed his 'Art' exhibition on the Today page.

Damn!

You didn't buy the figurine?????

(I'm so proud and yealous of you! I hope the sun gets to you in pristine condition, i'm confident it turns out to be the real deal and i'm looking forward to see some scans!

Well done!)

Niels

Okay guys, after suffering a serious flue last week only yesterday the mailman brought me the SUN record. Upon inspecting this beautiful piece of vinyl something catched the eye that caused some kind of panic! It did not notice it when I considered to buy this 45. See if you can find it...





Did you noticed what got me all shook up?

There is no credits for "Scotty & Bill" or "Scotty and Bill" on either side of the label. The pushmarks are there, the matrix numbers are engraved U 131 45 72 and U 130 45 72 and the 45 has a very wide trail off - reissues or counterfeits I have learned only have a short one. For a second I thought this SUN was a fraud but then again it did not match any of the label variations I had seen of fraud copies.

But then again, the ebay-seller (a Tennessee woman trading in antiques, living 20 miles outside Memphis) was very trustworthy with a 99,8% score with 1445 sells, answered all my questions nicely, was very cooperative and got the record when buying antiques from a 78 Memphis woman who reportedly bought this in 1954. She sounded convincing and when I made clear my doubts she said it is original beyond doubt, but that i always could get my money back. Not something a fraud would do, I suppose.

After all but after consulting some experts on FECC the general consensus is that it is the real deal. Reportedly there are 37 label variations for original Suns.

QUESTION: Did any collector over here ever came across a SUN label like this, which has no credits for Scotty & Bill? What is your opinion on the Sun. Is it genuine? Is it rare?

From Presleyana VI by Jerry Osborne:

Credits ELVIS PRESLEY
May or may not also credit SCOTTY and BILL or SCOTTY & BILL
Push marks are present, identification numbers are engraved

U-131-45-72
U-130-45-72

It is exactly like that... I never came across buying the Presleyana VI guide, something I planned to do a long time ago... Some respected expert PM-ed me that this one is really rare. It was supposed to be the first pressing but Philips spotted mistakes on the label. On Side A the credits for publishing are missing as are THE credits for S&B on both sides. So new labels were printed. Reportedly the small first run was printed and pressed so Philips mixed them with the new run with adjusted labels not to waste precious resources. Today only a handful of these are known to exist. THE source is very respectable and I hope he is right.

Well done mate!!! Lucky bastard.